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потребление на ток

Публикувано: 16.02.2026, 10:12:08
от FaKeR
димон написа: 14.02.2026, 16:31:10 Относно зареждането на акумулаторЪт :
Един колега бе споменал , че минусЪт да се закача само и задължително към ламаринката удължител на терминала. Може ли да обясни защо това е необходимо и каква е разликата, ако я боцнеш направо на полюсЪт..!?
In modern vehicles, connecting a battery charger or jumper cables to a chassis ground instead of the negative battery terminal is required for two primary reasons: electronic monitoring and explosion prevention.
1. Battery Management Systems (BMS)
Modern cars are equipped with an Electronic Battery Sensor (EBS) or a Battery Monitoring Unit typically located on the negative terminal.
Accurate Data: This sensor monitors the state of charge (SOC) and state of health (SOH) by measuring current flowing in and out of the battery.
Avoiding Bypass: If you connect a charger directly to the negative post, the current bypasses this sensor. The car’s computer won't "see" the charge, potentially leading to errors in the start-stop system, incorrect alternator output, or premature battery failure.
Protection: Some manufacturers warn that a sudden surge from a high-powered charger could damage the sensitive control unit if connected directly to the terminal.
2. Explosion and Fire Safety
Standard lead-acid batteries emit flammable hydrogen gas, especially during charging or when they are deeply discharged.
Spark Mitigation: The final connection in a circuit often creates a small spark. By making this final connection on the chassis—away from the battery—you ensure any spark occurs far from the concentrated source of explosive gas.
Tool Safety: Using the chassis as ground reduces the risk of a "dead short". If your wrench accidentally touches a metal part of the car while you are working on the positive terminal, it won't create a massive short circuit because the chassis is at the same potential as the negative terminal.
3. Electrical Efficiency (Jump-Starting)
When jump-starting, connecting to the engine block or a designated ground point provides a direct path to the starter motor. This bypasses potential resistance from a heavily corroded or failed battery, ensuring maximum current reaches the starter.

Младите инжИнерчета са го измислили защо този минус трябва да стърчи до акумулатора ;)

Аз лично като подавам ток минуса го закачам на скобата за вадене на двигателя (обикновено стърчи), ако няма отделно изнесен минус. По-дебело заземяване от това здраве му кажи [smilie=sarcastic.gif]

потребление на ток

Публикувано: 16.02.2026, 10:45:54
от димон
Силно ме съмнява, че този сензор на минусЪт измерва нещо когато колата е в покой ( не е запалена) . Нали трябва да дава отчет на някой блок . Ще имам предвид и ще закачам на ламарината. ;)

потребление на ток

Публикувано: 16.02.2026, 10:58:11
от FaKeR
Да ти кажа като съм закачал шкодата да й гледам живи данни идея си нямаш колко много неща следи, аз направо се ужасих. Та това ме навежда на мисълта, че дори заспала не е невъзможно да следи сумати параметри.
Най-малкото щом можеш да я отключиш дистанционно през приложението.

потребление на ток

Публикувано: 16.02.2026, 12:31:49
от ba7ka7a
What is IBS?
IBS = Intelligent Battery Sensor
It’s that module attached to the negative battery terminal.

It constantly measures:
Battery voltage
Charge current (in and out)
Battery temperature
State of Charge (SoC)
State of Health (SoH)
Internal resistance

It sends this data to:
Engine ECU
Gateway module
Energy management system

Your car basically knows how healthy and charged the battery is at any moment.

Why modern cars need this
Because your car has:
Start-Stop
Electric steering
DSG mechatronics
Haldex pump
Electric water pump
45W USB charging
Many control units always partially awake
The battery is heavily managed.
Without IBS, Start-Stop would destroy the battery in 1–2 years.

Charging strategies:
Your alternator is smart-controlled, not fixed voltage.
The ECU changes charging voltage depending on situation.

*Cold start strategy
When engine is cold:
Charging voltage high (around 14.7–15V)
Goal: quickly replenish starting energy
AGM batteries like higher charging voltage when cold.

*Acceleration phase
When you accelerate hard:
Alternator load is reduced
Charging voltage drops (sometimes 12.5–13V)
Reduces engine drag
Improves fuel economy
Gives you slightly more power
Yes — the alternator is partially disengaged under load.

*Deceleration / engine braking phase
When you lift off throttle:
Charging voltage increases
Alternator loads engine
Energy recovery happens
Battery recharges more aggressively
This is a mild form of regenerative charging.
That’s why your battery often charges more downhill.

*High State of Charge strategy
If battery is already ~80%+:
Charging voltage reduced
Battery kept slightly under full charge
Reduces stress and heat
Improves lifespan
Modern cars often keep AGM around 75–85%, not 100%.

*Low State of Charge strategy
If IBS detects low SoC:
Charging becomes aggressive
Start-Stop disabled
Comfort loads may be limited
Car prioritizes battery survival.

*High temperature strategy (important for Bulgaria)
If battery temperature is high (summer heat):
Charging voltage reduced
Prevents overcharging
Protects AGM from thermal damage
Heat kills batteries more than cold does.

Why sometimes you see 12.6V while driving
People get confused:
“Why is my voltage only 12.7V while engine is running?”
Because:
Battery is sufficiently charged
Alternator load is reduced
System is saving fuel
Old cars always charged at fixed 14.4V. Your car charges only when necessary.